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PostSubject: Born in the USA?   Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:43 pm

BORN IN THE USA?

Investigators: Obama uses Connecticut Soc. Sec. Number
3 experts insist White House answer new questions about documentation

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Posted: May 11, 2010
9:57 pm Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2010 WorldNetDaily



NEW YORK – Two private investigators working independently are asking why President Obama is using a Social Security number set aside for applicants in Connecticut while there is no record he ever had a mailing address in the state.

In addition, the records indicate the number was issued between 1977 and 1979, yet Obama's earliest employment reportedly was in 1975 at a Baskin-Robbins ice-cream shop in Oahu, Hawaii.

WND has copies of affidavits filed separately in a presidential eligibility lawsuit in the U.S. District Court of the District of Columbia by Ohio licensed private investigator Susan Daniels and Colorado private investigator John N. Sampson.

The investigators believe Obama needs to explain why he is using a Social Security number reserved for Connecticut applicants that was issued at a date later than he is known to have held employment.

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The Social Security website confirms the first three numbers in his ID are reserved for applicants with Connecticut addresses, 040-049.

"Since 1973, Social Security numbers have been issued by our central office," the Social Security website explains. "The first three (3) digits of a person's social security number are determined by the ZIP code of the mailing address shown on the application for a social security number."

The question is being raised amid speculation about the president's history fueled by an extraordinary lack of public documentation. Along with his original birth certificate, Obama also has not released educational records, scholarly articles, passport documents, medical records, papers from his service in the Illinois state Senate, Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records and adoption papers.

Robert Siciliano, president and CEO of IDTheftSecurity.com and a nationally recognized expert on identity theft, agrees the Social Security number should be questioned.

"I know Social Security numbers have been issued to people in states where they don't live, but there's usually a good reason the person applied for a Social Security number in a different state," Siciliano told WND.

WND asked Siciliano whether he thought the question was one the White House should answer.

"Yes," he replied. "In the case of President Obama, I really don't know what the good reason would be that he has a Social Security number issued in Connecticut when we know he was a resident of Hawaii."

Siciliano is a frequent expert guest on identify theft on cable television networks, including CNN, CNBC and the Fox News Channel.

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Daniels and Sampson each used a different database showing Obama is using a Social Security number beginning with 042.

WND has further confirmed that the Social Security number in question links to Obama in the online records maintained by the Selective Service System. Inserting the Social Security number, his birth date and his last name produces a valid Selective Service number.


To verify the number was issued by the Social Security Administration for applicants in Connecticut, Daniels used a Social Security number verification database. She found that the numbers immediately before and immediately after Obama's were issued to Connecticut applicants between the years 1977 and 1979.

"There is obviously a case of fraud going on here," Daniels maintained. "In 15 years of having a private investigator's license in Ohio, I've never seen the Social Security Administration make a mistake of issuing a Connecticut Social Security number to a person who lived in Hawaii. There is no family connection that would appear to explain the anomaly."

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Does the Social Security Administration ever re-issue Social Security numbers?

"Never," Daniels said. "It's against the law for a person to have a re-issued or second Social Security number issued."

Daniels said she is "staking my reputation on a conclusion that Obama's use of this Social Security number is fraudulent."

There is no indication in the limited background documentation released by the Obama 2008 presidential campaign or by the White House to establish that Obama ever lived in Connecticut.

Nor is there any suggestion in Obama's autobiography, "Dreams from My Father," that he ever had a Connecticut address.

Also, nothing can be found in the public record that indicates Obama visited Connecticut during his high-school years.

Sampson's affidavit specifies that as a result of his formal training as an immigration officer and his 27-year career in professional law enforcement, "it is my knowledge and belief that Social Security numbers can only be applied for in the state in which the applicant habitually resides and has their official residence."

Daniels told WND she believes Obama had a different Social Security number when he worked as a teenager in Hawaii prior to 1977.

"I doubt this is President Obama's originally issued Social Security number," she told WND. "Obama has a work history in Hawaii before he left the islands to attend college at Occidental College in California, so he must have originally been issued a Social Security number in Hawaii."

The published record available about Obama indicates his first job as a teenager in Hawaii was at a Baskin-Robbins in the Makiki neighborhood on Oahu. USA Today reported the ice-cream shop still was in operation one year after Obama's inauguration.

Politifact.com, a website typically supportive of Obama, claims he worked at the Baskin-Robbins in 1975 or 1976, prior to the issuance of the number in question.

"It is a crime to use more than one Social Security number, and Barack Obama had to have a previous Social Security number to have worked at Baskin-Robbins," she insisted. "Under current law, a person is not permitted to use more than one Social Security number in a lifetime."

Another anomaly in the law enforcement databases searched by Daniels and Sampson is that the date 1890 shows up in the field indicating the birth of the number holder, along with Obama's birth date of 08/04/1961. A third date listed is 04/08/1961, which appears to be a transposition of Obama's birth date in an international format, with the day before the month.

Daniels disclosed to WND the name of the database she searched and produced a computer screen copy of the page that listed 1890 as a date associated with the 042 Social Security number.

Daniels said she can't be sure if the 1890 figure has any significance. But she said it appears the number Obama is using was previously issued by the Social Security Administration.

After an extensive check of the proprietary databases she uses as a licensed private investigator, Daniels determined that the first occurrence of Obama's association with the number was in 1986 in Chicago.

Daniels assumes, but cannot prove, that Obama took on a previously issued Social Security number that had gone dormant due to the death of the original holder.

Daniels has been a licensed private investigator in Ohio since 1995. Sampson formed his private investigations firm, CSI Consulting and Investigations, in 2008. He previously worked as a deportations law enforcement officer with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

The Daniels and Sampson affidavits were originally recorded by attorney Orly Taitz in an eligibility case against Obama last year.

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PostSubject: Claims proof obamas birth certificate is a fake!!!   Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:29 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Born in the USA?   Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:41 am

Debunked. Unless the conspiracy started in 1961, I find this to be the most irrefutable evidence stating that Obama was born in Hawai'i in 1961, and that would, according to the Supreme Court, make him a natural-born citizen.
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PostSubject: Re: Born in the USA?   Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:50 pm

His social security number belongs to someone born in 1980 in conneticut. Can you look in to that? I heard about this micro film but could never find it thx Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Born in the USA?   Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:12 pm

Shynaku wrote:
Debunked. Unless the conspiracy started in 1961, I find this to be the most irrefutable evidence stating that Obama was born in Hawai'i in 1961, and that would, according to the Supreme Court, make him a natural-born citizen.

Yea, cant really argue against that, ill have to agree with you on that. Although it doesnt explain the other mystery's surrounding his history or citizenship
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PostSubject: Re: Born in the USA?   Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:08 pm

Fine. SSN. Lay it to rest; he was born in Hawai'i in 1961. Also, the next time you post something, Google it to see if it's answered by the first result...
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PostSubject: Re: Born in the USA?   Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:04 pm

if he was born i hawaii wouldnt he have a hawaii SSN? Just curious. I was born i alaska and have an alaska SSN, so whats up with that? You see i like to question things, to do otherwise is folish and unwise.

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PostSubject: Re: Born in the USA?   Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:06 pm

Because his family opted to not get the kid a SSN until later in life... when his father lived in Connecticut, I assume. You don't have to get your child a SSN. I don't know the reason the Obama family didn't get a SSN upon Barak Jr.'s birth, but that question wouldn't, alone, dispute the Honolulu Adviser's proclamation of birth and experts viewing the actual (not scanned) birth certificate saying it was not a forgery.

And there are two types of questions, and you are using the underhanded one: (1) questions that need answers, and are actively sought after; and (2) questions that are posed as statements. Type 2 doesn't actually say anything other than that there is a question that has yet to be answered, but they are often used as evidence against something. This is different from an unanswerable question, though, this is saying: "We have a yet unanswered question, so we're going to assume the answer suits our presupposed position." Just asking questions without giving justified answers is the lazy man's way of arguing.
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PostSubject: Re: Born in the USA?   Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:56 am

i can be a lazy arguer lol. I just dont trust a president born hawaii with a coneticut SSN. I dont care what the reason, i think its too peculiar
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